Post by soundslikeimback! on Jan 4, 2007 17:18:32 GMT -5
RobertM
Our First Topic
Homosexuality.
Yes, thats right. Skipping straight to the contreversial stuff.
Now I don't see why alot of heterosexual people are so affraid of gay people of the same sex. Yeah I know some people are deeply religious and think it's wrong, but they should keep it to themselves and try not to disrespect those that are homosexual. But others are so homophobic, that they try to keep their distance entirely. Even when it's family. I mean, it's not like it's contagious. It homosexuality, not homosexualitis. But the majority of homophobic people just don't care for gays because of the stereotype. I knew a few gay men and none of them are flamboyantly gay like the morons we see on TV.
On occasions I think it is funny to say things like "You sounded gay just then" but only because they DID sound gay just then. If someone started speaking with a heavy accent I would say "you sounded mexican" or something of the like. Using "Gay" as a flat out insult is moronic though.
I see gay as just another race, another skin color. You wouldn't make fun of a black person for being black, so why insult an entire group of people because they have a different sexual preference?
Jartix:
"Gay" means happy. Look it up.
you guys are retards if you don't believe thayt!!!
Woops. I mean, it's in the dictionary, so it's true. Homosexuality is shown by calling someone a "RobertM" "Homie".
So, in gangsta terms:
"Yo, mah homie!"
means...
"Yo, mah homosexual!"
RobertM:
I thought "Homie" meant "Freind". But thats beside the point. The topic is Homosexuality not "What does gay mean".
Jartix:
Getting my point across that "Gay" is not homosexual.
I see nothing wrong with homosexuals. What is wrong with a man liking a man? Nothing. People who think homosexualaty is wrong = Idiots. Case closed, homosexuality isn't normal, but that doesn't mean it's bad.
LoH:
Ok..here I go...end of debate, right here.
"Homie" does not = homosexual....it means "homeboy", which translates to "friend".
I've known non-flaming homos, and uber flaming-homos, and the flaming homos act exactly like the ones one tv...it's like they watch tv and think that's how they're supposed to act. Not unlike those who watch eMpTyV and think that it's ok to dress like a slut, and there's nothing more important in the world than being a pimp or somebody's hoe.
I think Gays should be allowed to be married, but there should be a stipulation...no more gay stuff on TV, and no teaching of homosexuality in schools. Those two reasons are why Kerry didn't get elected and we got stuck with Gee Dubya Bush again. Bush=anti-gay...Kerry=gay everywhere.
Gays are people too. I don't think of them any differently than I do some bitch trying to hit on me, that I don't want to have anytthing to do with. As long as they don't invade my life, I'm cool...let them do whatever they want behgind closed doors. However.....
Homosexuality was, at one time, considered a fetish...because it's not the natural way of things. Should we allow people who get-off on shit stains to be on TV as well, should people be allowed to declare that they like to eat feces in a sexual manner? The answer is obviously "No". Sexual preferences should not be made known on TV or in any other public manner....the same goes for homosexuals.
Is it a sin? According to the BIble, yes.
Do I believe in the Bible? No. I believe in science, with a supernatural guiding force...a.k.a...agnostic.
Is it wrong...that depends on your own personal beliefs. My beliefs, no.
Am I gay? No.
What if you think you might be gay? I say find a member of the OPPOSITE SEX, first...someone who can satisfy your sexual needs...do not automatically go to the other side without trying the natural way, first.
"Gay is natural, you fool." No it's not. The penis was designed by evolution to penetrate a vagina, and fertilize the eggs with sperm....not for guzzling cum.
Anymore questions?
Didn't think so.
Jartix:
"Gay" means happy.
Now, people think of homosexuals as people who they can laugh at and they are better than. This is not true, all people are equal. Some people have their hearts aimed at a person with a personalitie they like. This can mean that they start to like people of the same gender. So, basically, homosexuals are sort of people who go for personality, not looks and gender. I approve of this (not that I am like that). It's better to like someone for who they are, not their popularness and looks.
That's what I think.
LoH:
People who go for personality only are BIsexual.
"Gay" is the lifestyle
"Homosexuality" is the sexual act.
Soundslikematt:
just go to www.dictionary.com and there the 7th definition of gay
–noun
7. a homosexual person, esp. a male.
Gay does equal homosexual so lets stay on the topic of whether you think there is anything wrong with it. I dont think there is anything wrong with it at all. A marriage is between a man and a woman. Those words were written way before anything homosexual ever came up. Like stated above it used to be known as a fetish not a way of life so there was no reason to mention them getting married. Robin Williams says it best. "Same sex marriage? Anyone who is married knows that any marriage is the same sex!" or something like that. If two guys want to have sex and get married let them. If two girls want to have sex and get married let them...and video tape it. I personally follow the Bible but also do not believe that gay marriage is wrong. Let them all suffer like we do.
RobertM
Now to make this a real debate, we need someone who dissagrees with the other people. I think I will take that role to simulate a good debate
I think homosexuality is immoral and wrong. It is not right. As LoH said, the penis is used for reproduction between people of the OPPOSITE sex. It is not for other sick things. People should wear pants with the buttocks covered. Not leather half pants that leave your ass exposed.
There should be some kind of rehab center to make gay people straight. They could at least TRY to not be gay. I don't see the point. Gay's should not be allowed to marry because they are unable to have children and continue our existance.
Soundslikematt:
Well actually there are "camps" that people can be sent to make them straight. There was a movie about it, it was call "But Im A Cheerleader" or something like that. And its true, for some people they do choose to be homosexual but other people are born with it and cant help it. the camps teach people how to be straight, it doesn't teach them to be straight. So for some homosexuality is an unvolentary desire and it shouldn't be looked down upon. If two people love each other regardless of their gender or sexual orientation they should be allowed to get married and spend the rest of their life together.
RobertM:
I'm gonna steal something from AQ's debate club---
I was absolutely fine with the gay community existing, until i went to a town that is quite well known for its lack of straight community. Not only did i witness hefty hairy shirtless men straddling each other, I also would hate to know what goes in the "Gentle Touch Massage Salon" or in the store with male midriff manequins sporting black leather banana slings. Now I was unlucky enough to be there at the same time a transvestite show was touring through the area. I was scarred for life. I think that fishnets and thongs are for women and only women, but these transvestites were breaking that rule rather flamboyantly making a point of wearing a short black leather skirt with fishnet stockings and a very obvious rear end view of a leather thong. No thank you.
LoH:
Homosexuality was encouraged in the Greek and Roman armies centuries ago....they believed it promoted comradery. It was also a part of their culture and way of life. The men would get together and get druink and do each other, because they thought it was a way to make friends, and also a way to release sexual tension due to the lack of it at home with their wives. I mean, when men get together and drink, testosterone levels soar, and fights break out...unless they're all looking for gay sex.
Gay people have a sexual preference, and I just don't think it should be allowed to be thrown in everyone's faces. Wearing pants that show your ass-cheeks is NOT civilized....it's a flamboyant statement which implies "I'm gay...here's where you put your penis in me". Should women be allowed to walk around with their tits hanging out? It would be nice, but it's not civilized.
I don't want homosexuality taught to our kids in school. I don't want it shown on TV. I don't want it shoved down my throat as acceptable, because I don't shove my sexuality in anybody else's face. What people do behind closed doors is their own business, and it should remain there, behind closed doors. The reason why it's so out there and in your face now, is because we have allowed it to. We gave in, and let people with a sexual fetish "come out" of hiding, so they could find others with the same fetish as themselves.
Now, there are those people who try to make excuses for themselves, saying it IS natural, and that they were born that way. I don't think so. I don't think anyone is BORN gay. I really think that it goes back to a person's childhood, and a life-changing event. Lack of parental guidance is another factor. People don't teach their children about sex at an early-enough age....the kids find out on their own, now-a-days. Boys without fathers, who's mother's are sleeping with different men all the time, might be prone to develop a desire for male sexual activity. Who knows...but, it is a possibility, and of course, the recognition of possibilities is the only thing that divides the intelligent from the idiotic.
Our First Topic
Homosexuality.
Yes, thats right. Skipping straight to the contreversial stuff.
Now I don't see why alot of heterosexual people are so affraid of gay people of the same sex. Yeah I know some people are deeply religious and think it's wrong, but they should keep it to themselves and try not to disrespect those that are homosexual. But others are so homophobic, that they try to keep their distance entirely. Even when it's family. I mean, it's not like it's contagious. It homosexuality, not homosexualitis. But the majority of homophobic people just don't care for gays because of the stereotype. I knew a few gay men and none of them are flamboyantly gay like the morons we see on TV.
On occasions I think it is funny to say things like "You sounded gay just then" but only because they DID sound gay just then. If someone started speaking with a heavy accent I would say "you sounded mexican" or something of the like. Using "Gay" as a flat out insult is moronic though.
I see gay as just another race, another skin color. You wouldn't make fun of a black person for being black, so why insult an entire group of people because they have a different sexual preference?
Jartix:
"Gay" means happy. Look it up.
you guys are retards if you don't believe thayt!!!
Woops. I mean, it's in the dictionary, so it's true. Homosexuality is shown by calling someone a "RobertM" "Homie".
So, in gangsta terms:
"Yo, mah homie!"
means...
"Yo, mah homosexual!"
RobertM:
I thought "Homie" meant "Freind". But thats beside the point. The topic is Homosexuality not "What does gay mean".
Jartix:
Getting my point across that "Gay" is not homosexual.
I see nothing wrong with homosexuals. What is wrong with a man liking a man? Nothing. People who think homosexualaty is wrong = Idiots. Case closed, homosexuality isn't normal, but that doesn't mean it's bad.
LoH:
Ok..here I go...end of debate, right here.
"Homie" does not = homosexual....it means "homeboy", which translates to "friend".
I've known non-flaming homos, and uber flaming-homos, and the flaming homos act exactly like the ones one tv...it's like they watch tv and think that's how they're supposed to act. Not unlike those who watch eMpTyV and think that it's ok to dress like a slut, and there's nothing more important in the world than being a pimp or somebody's hoe.
I think Gays should be allowed to be married, but there should be a stipulation...no more gay stuff on TV, and no teaching of homosexuality in schools. Those two reasons are why Kerry didn't get elected and we got stuck with Gee Dubya Bush again. Bush=anti-gay...Kerry=gay everywhere.
Gays are people too. I don't think of them any differently than I do some bitch trying to hit on me, that I don't want to have anytthing to do with. As long as they don't invade my life, I'm cool...let them do whatever they want behgind closed doors. However.....
Homosexuality was, at one time, considered a fetish...because it's not the natural way of things. Should we allow people who get-off on shit stains to be on TV as well, should people be allowed to declare that they like to eat feces in a sexual manner? The answer is obviously "No". Sexual preferences should not be made known on TV or in any other public manner....the same goes for homosexuals.
Is it a sin? According to the BIble, yes.
Do I believe in the Bible? No. I believe in science, with a supernatural guiding force...a.k.a...agnostic.
Is it wrong...that depends on your own personal beliefs. My beliefs, no.
Am I gay? No.
What if you think you might be gay? I say find a member of the OPPOSITE SEX, first...someone who can satisfy your sexual needs...do not automatically go to the other side without trying the natural way, first.
"Gay is natural, you fool." No it's not. The penis was designed by evolution to penetrate a vagina, and fertilize the eggs with sperm....not for guzzling cum.
Anymore questions?
Didn't think so.
Jartix:
"Gay" means happy.
Now, people think of homosexuals as people who they can laugh at and they are better than. This is not true, all people are equal. Some people have their hearts aimed at a person with a personalitie they like. This can mean that they start to like people of the same gender. So, basically, homosexuals are sort of people who go for personality, not looks and gender. I approve of this (not that I am like that). It's better to like someone for who they are, not their popularness and looks.
That's what I think.
LoH:
People who go for personality only are BIsexual.
"Gay" is the lifestyle
"Homosexuality" is the sexual act.
Soundslikematt:
just go to www.dictionary.com and there the 7th definition of gay
–noun
7. a homosexual person, esp. a male.
Gay does equal homosexual so lets stay on the topic of whether you think there is anything wrong with it. I dont think there is anything wrong with it at all. A marriage is between a man and a woman. Those words were written way before anything homosexual ever came up. Like stated above it used to be known as a fetish not a way of life so there was no reason to mention them getting married. Robin Williams says it best. "Same sex marriage? Anyone who is married knows that any marriage is the same sex!" or something like that. If two guys want to have sex and get married let them. If two girls want to have sex and get married let them...and video tape it. I personally follow the Bible but also do not believe that gay marriage is wrong. Let them all suffer like we do.
RobertM
Now to make this a real debate, we need someone who dissagrees with the other people. I think I will take that role to simulate a good debate
I think homosexuality is immoral and wrong. It is not right. As LoH said, the penis is used for reproduction between people of the OPPOSITE sex. It is not for other sick things. People should wear pants with the buttocks covered. Not leather half pants that leave your ass exposed.
There should be some kind of rehab center to make gay people straight. They could at least TRY to not be gay. I don't see the point. Gay's should not be allowed to marry because they are unable to have children and continue our existance.
Soundslikematt:
Well actually there are "camps" that people can be sent to make them straight. There was a movie about it, it was call "But Im A Cheerleader" or something like that. And its true, for some people they do choose to be homosexual but other people are born with it and cant help it. the camps teach people how to be straight, it doesn't teach them to be straight. So for some homosexuality is an unvolentary desire and it shouldn't be looked down upon. If two people love each other regardless of their gender or sexual orientation they should be allowed to get married and spend the rest of their life together.
RobertM:
I'm gonna steal something from AQ's debate club---
I was absolutely fine with the gay community existing, until i went to a town that is quite well known for its lack of straight community. Not only did i witness hefty hairy shirtless men straddling each other, I also would hate to know what goes in the "Gentle Touch Massage Salon" or in the store with male midriff manequins sporting black leather banana slings. Now I was unlucky enough to be there at the same time a transvestite show was touring through the area. I was scarred for life. I think that fishnets and thongs are for women and only women, but these transvestites were breaking that rule rather flamboyantly making a point of wearing a short black leather skirt with fishnet stockings and a very obvious rear end view of a leather thong. No thank you.
LoH:
Homosexuality was encouraged in the Greek and Roman armies centuries ago....they believed it promoted comradery. It was also a part of their culture and way of life. The men would get together and get druink and do each other, because they thought it was a way to make friends, and also a way to release sexual tension due to the lack of it at home with their wives. I mean, when men get together and drink, testosterone levels soar, and fights break out...unless they're all looking for gay sex.
Gay people have a sexual preference, and I just don't think it should be allowed to be thrown in everyone's faces. Wearing pants that show your ass-cheeks is NOT civilized....it's a flamboyant statement which implies "I'm gay...here's where you put your penis in me". Should women be allowed to walk around with their tits hanging out? It would be nice, but it's not civilized.
I don't want homosexuality taught to our kids in school. I don't want it shown on TV. I don't want it shoved down my throat as acceptable, because I don't shove my sexuality in anybody else's face. What people do behind closed doors is their own business, and it should remain there, behind closed doors. The reason why it's so out there and in your face now, is because we have allowed it to. We gave in, and let people with a sexual fetish "come out" of hiding, so they could find others with the same fetish as themselves.
Now, there are those people who try to make excuses for themselves, saying it IS natural, and that they were born that way. I don't think so. I don't think anyone is BORN gay. I really think that it goes back to a person's childhood, and a life-changing event. Lack of parental guidance is another factor. People don't teach their children about sex at an early-enough age....the kids find out on their own, now-a-days. Boys without fathers, who's mother's are sleeping with different men all the time, might be prone to develop a desire for male sexual activity. Who knows...but, it is a possibility, and of course, the recognition of possibilities is the only thing that divides the intelligent from the idiotic.