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Post by RobertM on Dec 24, 2007 9:28:03 GMT -5
Ok, I log into DF for the first time in ages and I see DeathKnights, sweet. I run off and get the armor. Its awesome, very strong and a very offensive class. I go to look up the ultimate skill to see if doom weapons count as DK gear ('pedia is useless btw) and on the way in I see the official DK thread. Meh, I guess stopping by won't hurt I think... forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=12314796We get a fucking awesome armor and the only thing people can say is that it's overpowered?? WHO FUCKING CARES! JUST ENJOY YOUR GOD DAMNED UPDATE!!! Bastards. I'm a bit pissy right now, ate some dodgy ham the other day and I feel like fucking shit right now. It was a tasty ham though, so no regrets. I'm gonna go vomit a bit, bbl. |
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Post by Lord of Hordes on Dec 24, 2007 10:10:27 GMT -5
Well, the problem i see is that Dragonlord armor is supposed to be the ultimate armor in the game. When they released Ninja, it was more powerful than DL, so they nerfed it. Now DK is in the testing phase, and it's more powerful than DL. It will be nerfed before it's full release this Friday. The reason they keep DL above the rest is that it toes the line of making the game boringly easy at some times. I mean, with DL and your baby dragon trained up to boost healing effects, you never die, lol. Plus, DK is probably a precursor to Paladin, and I'm sure Artix will want it to at least be comparable or more powerful than DK, but slightly less powerful than DL.
The only way to keep new armors powerful like DK is, is to go in and make every single monster tougher....not gonna happen, until Artix leaves DF like he left AQ.
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Post by RobertM on Dec 24, 2007 18:02:45 GMT -5
Well, the problem i see is that Dragonlord armor is supposed to be the ultimate armor in the game. When they released Ninja, it was more powerful than DL, so they nerfed it. Now DK is in the testing phase, and it's more powerful than DL. It will be nerfed before it's full release this Friday. The reason they keep DL above the rest is that it toes the line of making the game boringly easy at some times. I mean, with DL and your baby dragon trained up to boost healing effects, you never die, lol. Plus, DK is probably a precursor to Paladin, and I'm sure Artix will want it to at least be comparable or more powerful than DK, but slightly less powerful than DL. The only way to keep new armors powerful like DK is, is to go in and make every single monster tougher....not gonna happen, until Artix leaves DF like he left AQ. Where the hell does it say DL is supposed to be the best? DLA is a tanking arour, it's assault sucks. Compare it to warrior for christs sake. The thing is, this game is heavily based on "Kill them before they kill you" and farming, therefore minimizing the DLA's amazing defensive powers. This armor was the anti-dla with the exact opposite idea bewhind it (Why it has coil and block is beyond me tbh though). I think of the armors in DF like the Uber-Line in aq. Offense ------ Defense Reign - Shadow- Golden DK - Warrior - Pirate - Rogue - DLA - Mage That might not be exactly right since they might have changed shit I don't know about, but with the movepool of DLA and mage's crippling abilities they always stood on top of the defensive side. Warrior has a unique ability to keep heavy damage going at all times so long as they don't use a defensive move while pirate provides a Big-Bang then fails over time because all the good attacks have massive cooldowns and MP costs. DK was like a warrior/pirate hybrid thingy, it gives a big bang and keeps up the offense while loosing HP. I think that by simply removing DK's defensive moves (WHY do they have those? It makes no sense in the lining) it will become a perfectly fair class. |
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Post by Lord of Hordes on Dec 24, 2007 22:22:41 GMT -5
That's probably what they'll do...remove the defense.
About DLA supposedly being the best armor in game...I've read several threads about it on their forums, where people ask for buffs to certain things, and the staff reply saying things like: "This is DRAGONfable, so the DLA is going to be the best armor, and the plot line will eventually start to revolve around the Dragons and Dragonlords"....that's not an exact quote, but it's basically what they've said...at least, that's my interpretation of what they've said.
If you haven't noticed, DF is not doing anything like AQ...all armors pretty much cost the same so far, and there aren't any "ubers". We'll have to see what DK costs when it's finally released in full to back that statement up.
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Post by Piccolo on Dec 24, 2007 23:35:36 GMT -5
to answer your question about why people state that its overpowered, Robert, its simply because they don't want it to be boring, they WANT a challenge, not to be able to go "Oh, look, its the <insert biggest mob in game to date>, but, oh, that's not a problem, I have my pwn items and I can kill it in one hit!" they don't want that, they want a CHALLENGE, where they go "OH NOEZ, ITS TEH <big guy again> I NEED TO GET MAH BEZT EQZ OOT 4 DIS!" (now I'm going to curl up into a fetal position and beg myself for forgiveness on all the horrible spelling and grammar in that sentence)
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